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due casi ufologici del NICAP

Ultimo Aggiornamento: 24/06/2013 11:19
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22/06/2013 13:15

altri due casi ufologici che mi piacerebbe discutere con voi, approfondendo l'evento e cercando di capire [SM=g8237] cosa potrebbe essere successo e che tipo di circostanze potrebbero essere annessi, sono questi due casi che ho trovato, spulciando i files del NICAP [SM=g8097]

[SM=g8128] www.nicap.org/waves/1987fullrep.htm [SM=g8130]



[SM=g8342] Jan. 31, 1987; Alaska [SM=g8354]
Alaska Airlines Flight 53 encountered several very large disk-shaped UFOs that trailed them. The UFOs eventually flew away from the airplane, moving about a mile a second!" Flight 53 was told the object was not being tracked on ground radar, but the crew had picked it up on their onborne radar. The Alaska Airlines segment can be seen 6:00 minutes into the video.
www.nicap.org/870131alaskadir.htm


[SM=g8342]Aug. 23, 1987; Corydon, IN [SM=g8354]
10:20 PM. The incident reported below is a well-witnessed event, a case involving at least 12-15 witnesses, five of which were MUFON Field Investigators. Part of the event, which lasted approximately 5-10 minutes., (a 1.5 minute segment) was videotaped. As a result of recent, intense UFO activity in the Corydon area, we had conducted a field test of our Rapid Deployment Group and ventured to Corydon, Indiana, and talked with approximately 50 witnesses. The initial investigation/meeting at 8:00 PM our time (9:00 PM their time) lasted about an hour. We then proceeded to an area where these NL's were being observed. We observed a jet aircraft coming from the west and I requested that a camcorder be used to gauge resolution and serve as a "control sample". Scott Wilkerson (FIT) conducted the "filming". There were four lights on the jet. At approximately 10:20 PM, an object described as brilliant orange, suddenly materialized in the SSE. The suddenness and the brilliant orange, flare-like characteristics were unmistakably unusual. The elevation of the object was approximately 20-25 degrees at the beginning of the sighting. The object appeared to be an orange headlight and appeared to be either hovering or moving toward the witnesses. At one point there was a rapid descent down to the left, all the time the brilliance varied only slightly. Several times the light winked completely out, only to flare up again. After about 5-8 minutes, the object went into a flat W-E flight mode at a relatively slow rate of speed at an elevation of 10-15 degrees. One member, Harold Hartig, a former radar operator (and GOC spotter) for the USAF and FI for MUFON, reported that through 10x50 binoculars, he observed a red light, about 1/200th in intensity compared to the orange light, in-trail. Later, he reported that at one time the object appeared as two orange balls, undeniable, with a very small sharply focused red light slightly above the gap. Another observer also reported the red light in trail. Jerry Sievers, Assistant State Director, verified the fact that the configuration in the beginning was defined as a small red light trailing the larger orange mass. The only person to see the red light were the ones using binoculars. At no time did the red light vary its set distance from the parent object. It was "apparently" part of the same object. However, during the 1.5 minute segment where the object was videotaped, the red light was in the lead as the object headed East. During this "filming" period the object "winked out" twice. The duration of the "winkout" was approximately the same, leading us to believe that the object passed behind two telephone or power poles. One such transit was verified. During the last 30-seconds or so a small commercial or private aircraft (not a jumbo jet) entered the immediate area from East to West on an "apparent" collision course with the anomalistic target. Several seconds of videotape document this as it "appears" as a near miss. Not knowing for sure that the objects were the same distance from us was the only consoling factor. The vertical separation was almost zero. The aircraft "appeared" slightly lower and closer to us when viewed on videotape. Due to curvature of the Earth, however, this may be misleading. The aircraft was traveling at least twice as fast as the unknown if at the same approximate distance. The ceiling according to Flight Service earlier in the Day was 4,000 broken. There were some clouds remaining at that time in the South and East. If the aircraft was traveling at 120 knots, the other target must have been under stall speed. Another orange target was observed by some observers and an attempt to lock-on with the camcorder unit was made without success, due to preoccupation with the primary target.
www.nicap.org/870823images.htm





p.s.
[SM=g8365] se ho sbagliato sezione a postare le tematica, chiedo venia, potete spostare i post nella sezione piu' attinente. [SM=g8861]
[Modificato da chip65C02 22/06/2013 13:19]
24/06/2013 10:42



1987 per ipotesi H0 
www.nicap.org/waves/1987fullrep.htm 

Jan. 31, 1987; Alaska 
Alaska Airlines Flight 53 encountered several very large disk-shaped UFOs that trailed them. The UFOs eventually flew away from the airplane, moving about a mile a second!" Flight 53 was told the object was not being tracked on ground radar, but the crew had picked it up on their onborne radar. The Alaska Airlines segment can be seen 6:00 minutes into the video. 
www.nicap.org/870131alaskadir.htm 



il caso e’ probabilmente mal denominato, [SM=g2806961] ci si riferisce al caso della Japan Airlines 1628 del 1987 ma ed in questa descrizione "pessima" [SM=g1950684] del nicap non e’ chiaro lo shape.


Il caso del 1987 del kc135 di cui non sapevo, e’ conforme all’anno critico del 1987 identico al caso JA1628 e sappiamo che statisticamente nell’anno critico, [SM=g6794] possono verificarsi piu’ avvistamenti dello stesso oggetto.
www.ufocasebook.com/alaska1987.html
realtvufos.blogspot.it/2009/03/u_06.html

in entrambi i casi non ricorre lo shape UFO nave madre insettoide (luce bianca intensa oppure UFO traslucido) quindi si puo’ ignorare la prima segnalazione UFO Nicap, in quanto probabilmente non inerente allo shape ricercato per ottimizzare il muq insettoide.

Th:
Caso scartato: shape non definito nei record nicap, quasi certamente è il caso mal descritto e mal taggato, riferibile all’JA1628. L’altro caso annesso al KC135, é anch'esso un caso scartato per shape incompatibile

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Aug. 23, 1987; Corydon, IN 
10:20 PM. The incident reported below is a well-witnessed event, a case involving at least 12-15 witnesses, five of which were MUFON Field Investigators. Part of the event, which lasted approximately 5-10 minutes., (a 1.5 minute segment) was videotaped. As a result of recent, intense UFO activity in the Corydon area, we had conducted a field test of our Rapid Deployment Group and ventured to Corydon, Indiana, and talked with approximately 50 witnesses. The initial investigation/meeting at 8:00 PM our time (9:00 PM their time) lasted about an hour. We then proceeded to an area where these NL's were being observed. We observed a jet aircraft coming from the west and I requested that a camcorder be used to gauge resolution and serve as a "control sample". Scott Wilkerson (FIT) conducted the "filming". There were four lights on the jet. At approximately 10:20 PM, an object described as brilliant orange, suddenly materialized in the SSE. The suddenness and the brilliant orange, flare-like characteristics were unmistakably unusual. The elevation of the object was approximately 20-25 degrees at the beginning of the sighting. The object appeared to be an orange headlight and appeared to be either hovering or moving toward the witnesses. At one point there was a rapid descent down to the left, all the time the brilliance varied only slightly. Several times the light winked completely out, only to flare up again. After about 5-8 minutes, the object went into a flat W-E flight mode at a relatively slow rate of speed at an elevation of 10-15 degrees. One member, Harold Hartig, a former radar operator (and GOC spotter) for the USAF and FI for MUFON, reported that through 10x50 binoculars, he observed a red light, about 1/200th in intensity compared to the orange light, in-trail. Later, he reported that at one time the object appeared as two orange balls, undeniable, with a very small sharply focused red light slightly above the gap. Another observer also reported the red light in trail. Jerry Sievers, Assistant State Director, verified the fact that the configuration in the beginning was defined as a small red light trailing the larger orange mass. The only person to see the red light were the ones using binoculars. At no time did the red light vary its set distance from the parent object. It was "apparently" part of the same object. However, during the 1.5 minute segment where the object was videotaped, the red light was in the lead as the object headed East. During this "filming" period the object "winked out" twice. The duration of the "winkout" was approximately the same, leading us to believe that the object passed behind two telephone or power poles. One such transit was verified. During the last 30-seconds or so a small commercial or private aircraft (not a jumbo jet) entered the immediate area from East to West on an "apparent" collision course with the anomalistic target. Several seconds of videotape document this as it "appears" as a near miss. Not knowing for sure that the objects were the same distance from us was the only consoling factor. The  vertical separation was almost zero. The aircraft "appeared" slightly lower and closer to us when viewed on videotape. Due to curvature of the Earth, however, this may be misleading. The aircraft was traveling at least twice as fast as the unknown if at the same approximate distance. The ceiling according to Flight Service earlier in the Day was 4,000 broken. There were some clouds remaining at that time in the South and East. If the aircraft was traveling at 120 knots, the other target must have been under stall speed. Another orange target was observed by some observers and an attempt to lock-on with the camcorder unit was made without success, due to preoccupation with the primary target. 
www.nicap.org/870823images.htm 


[ 0 ] mancano soggetti che abbiano avvistato il presunto oggetto, da remoto.

[ 0 ] mancano dati numerici radar, ma ci sono qualche foto.

L'evento non e' ufologicamente molto reale [SM=g6794]

[ 0 ] Lo shape non e’ chiaro, il fenomeno e’ piu’ annesso a luci anomale che ad avvistamento di UFO piattiformi.

[ 0 ] I testimoni parlano di luce anomala di colore rosso, orange e la scissione in due.

[ 0 ] Le foto annesse sembrano cogliere un puntino bianco, forse due puntini bianchi.

[ x ] C’e’ obiettiva discrepanza [SM=g3061175] tra testimonianze e foto circa la descrizione dello shape

Mancando la chiarezza dello shape, la luce potrebbe essere di tutto, da post combustori di aereo a due caccia militari che erano in esercitazione notturna.

[ 0 ] Per altro nelle descrizioni dei testimoni non si parla di manovre anomale oppure di hovering oppure di zigzagamenti propri dei foo fighters.

Caso scartato: shape indeterminato, foto contraddittorie alle descrizioni, dinamica di volo non anomala.

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2004 per ipotesi H0 
Mar. 10, 2004 - The crews of a number of fishing vessels fifty miles off the coast of Neah Bay, Washington observed a disc-shaped object with white, red and green lights at 7:00 p.m. on this evening. It flew around at high rates of speed and was in view for nearly half an hour. (Source: Peter Davenport, National UFO Reporting Center, Seattle, March 2004 webpage). 



thecid.com/ufo/uf17/uf3/173158.htm

mostrecentufosightings.com/disk-shaped-ufo-neah-bay-wa-march-...

-non ci sono altri osservatori in remoto che osservarono l’oggetto
-non ci sono dati radar, foto, comunicazioni radio annesse che attestino che l’evento era al momento dell’osservazione, reale.

I colori rosso, verde e bianco sono colori comuni anche alle luci di posizioni aereonautiche per altro la dinamica di volo (linea retta ad alta velocita’) pare conforme alla dinamica di un aereo. L’oggetto pare che abbia volato in tondo e tale da essere visto per mezz’ora. Non si verificano rilasci di Foo Fighters ne di oggetti compatibili e non c’e’ nemmeno un disegno dell’oggetto dei testimoni della barca.

Evento scartato: shape incompatibile l’oggetto non emetteva luce bianca intesna, descrizione dinamica dell’oggetto compatibile con un aereo, congruente i colori osservati. Assenza di disegni e foto, assenza di Foo Fighters.

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Mar. 25, 2004 - At around 7:00 p.m. the crew of a commercial airliner flying near Omaha, Nebraska reported seeing four disc-shaped objects, which remained visible ahead of the aircraft for between 10 and 15 minutes.  The objects did not appear on FAA radar at anytime during the entire sighting. They had many lights and flew off to the west, where they were lost from view (Source: Peter Davenport, National UFO Reporting Center, Seattle, March 2004 webpage; Larry Hatch, U computer database, case 18197, citing NUFORC).



ufospottings.com/sightings/2004/03/25/24339

www.ufosnw.com/sighting_reports/2004/omahaufo/airlineufoa...

www.ufosnw.com/sighting_reports/2004/omahaufo/airlineufo.mp3
www.ufosnw.com/sighting_reports/2004/omahatranscript/omahatransc...
www.sightingsreport.com/sightings/42313

giudizio sospeso: [SM=g8344] caso ufologicamente reale, lo shape degli oggetti non è definito, mancano disegni oppure descrizioni piu’ accurate degli oggetti e della loro dinamica di volo Ci sono pero' dei sospetti che possano essere [SM=g8138] 4 mezzi militari in esercitazione, a causa della formazione 2 + 2 ossia capoformazione + gregario, il pilota del volo civile poi dice di aver visto "4 aircraft".
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